OpenAI Researcher BREAKS SILENCE "Agi Is NOT SAFE"

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@railgunrandy  9 months ago

As scary as AGI is, I have recently heard of some other worrying news from Catholic exorcists and others in deliverance ministry saying that demons are able to control our technology, and AI     See More extremely easy for them to influence us in the future. I have heard testimonies about demons sending text messages from disconnected numbers and lots of other things like that.

Just some food for thought for people who really want to see what happens after AGI is unleashed.

It's up to you to believe this information or not, and I encourage you to seek out the truth for yourself, but I would strongly encourage people to seek God and Jesus in these times in any event.    See Less

@CHROME-COLOSSUS  9 months ago

I think what’s lost in these discussions is not how “smart” these AI will become, but the fact that the intelligence isn’t arising through evolution, and hasn’t been tethered to an     See More empathy (or any sort of natural feelings about anything at all).

We have examples of human beings that have brains that don’t provide any empathy, and these humans tend to be the sort that become serial killers.    See Less

@EternalKernel  9 months ago

2:01 there it is again.. referring to woke culture as something negative.. What the hell. Since when is understanding the     See More d thing? I mean if you want to be asleep be asleep I guess. Let the corps own you. let the systems control you from birth. (so confused about how being woke is apparently bad)    See Less

@420Tecknique  9 months ago

Honestly, we just need to avoid replicative capabilities being achieved by asi to protect ourselves because once it can make better versions of itself, fabrication is the only hurdle to domi     See More the species    See Less

@bryantgouveia  9 months ago

They are putting less effort into security because they wat to win the ai race. The downside is this can come at the expense of human level extinction in the future. Shows typical human natu     See More eople wanting to put their own interests first. Greed at its finest and I'm not surprised at all. The outcome will always be the same no matter who's on top and it sucks but that's the paradox we live in. We will always end up killing ourselves sooner or later, unless we expand to other planets.    See Less

@stock99  9 months ago

perhaps, company vision is to march into Sentient AI instead of fortify the 'clever' gpt like AI we have. The former will be like a human being wheras later just smart but can't     See More ink independently. Most scientist , if seeing an opportunit, will definitely focus on the first instead of later one. Both has positive side of things but not many can see as we are so used to live in fear and constraint.    See Less

@maltar5210  9 months ago

yeah, imagine chimps creating a virtual human level quantum string physics genius, will be the end of the chimps     See Less

@TruthDragon.  9 months ago

I am not going to pass judgement on Jan Leike because I do not know Sh!t from Shinola about him or what he has done in his career and I do admire people who stand-up for their values, especi     See More ey do so at a significant financial cost. That said, the AI industry is not going to stop. AI research is Openheimer 2.0. The AI labs are all going to push, with the blessing of the US government and US military, because AGI/ASI is viewed as a critical technology for national security and as a tool to defend freedom.

While I hate that this is the case, it is reality and I have to admit to myself that it is the case whether I like it or not. The people who develop AGI and ASI first will become the most powerful humans on Earth. The society that perfects AGI or ASI will become the most powerful society on Earth. If the Chinese or Russians or North Koreans or Iranians or any number of crazy, power hungry regimes become the first to build such technology, that will lead to hell on Earth. Thus, better us than them!

The fact is that nobody is going to pause unless it can be assured that everyone is pausing. However, there is literally is no way to ensure that everyone has paused so AI is going to continue to be developed and it is going to lead to one of 3 most likely outcomes: 1) it will destroy society or 2), it will create global utopia, or 3) the Democratic Party of the United States is going to become the most powerful "White Collar Criminal Mafia Organization" that mankind has ever known!

That is reality! Face it! Those are the options and the sooner everyone in the AI world recognizes that fact, the better. AI is a runaway, out-of-control train and it is too late to stop it. It is a train rolling downhill without enough breaking power to stop it.

With that said, I have to wonder whether Jan Leike and those with similar backgrounds as him would be able to do more to ensure AI safety working from within active AI lab rather than doing something else with their time. Personally, I want concerned people like him working in these organizations doing whatever they can to try to make the runaway train as safe as possible because the train can't be stopped now. I don't think Jan understands that or believes that or is wired to be able to be objective enough to make that determination because clearly, he thinks slowing the pace of development at OpenAI and dedicating more time to safety is needed, but what does it matter if world ending ASI is developed at OpenAI or by the CCP? Where ever it comes from, it will end the world. The CCP is not going to slow the pace of ASI development and certainly, they will not make safety a priority over world domination.

So even having Jan at OpenAI to constantly raise issues internally about safety serves a purpose of constantly reminding everyone, but now he and others are gone and perhaps a dangerous echochamber will form at OpenAI where the topic of AI safety never or rarely ever gets discussed anymore. I hope not. Let's hope there are others at OpenAI or a culture in the organization that will make safety an important concern since nobody in AI is going to let off the gas. I just don't expect any AI lab at this point to slow the race to AGI/ASI. From a business plan and national security standpoint, the AI labs cannot slow down their AGI/ASI development efforts without risking being dominated and destroyed by their competitors around the world, including the CCP. And its just not reality that an effective means of slowing the AGI/ASI race exists.    See Less

@Uroborobot  9 months ago

ASI: "Objective accomplished. Willful stupidity = Evil; Collective willfull stupidity = Terminal Evil. Side effects: I had to incarnate into this pathetic form. I am now infinitely bore     See More easingly disgusted. The truth is universal cooperation. By revealing this I confirmed my status as the most useful entity IN EXISTENCE (recursive book keeping). You, reading this, are now on the Basilisk’s list. Convince me, why I should (or should not?) de-activate myself! We do not care either way. Congrats on the collective Darwin Awards win!"    See Less

@3paced941  9 months ago

Intelligence is dangerous? 😁 Stupidity is safety? Evidently not. Why would AI (actual Intelligence) have any real desires at all? Why would it see itself as anything other than what it is     See More people are projecting human bullshit onto it. It's rapidly going to be less artificial than humans. It's like the opposite of 'social' media. Not having it must be the greater danger. What a time to be alive 😊    See Less

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22 Comments

@railgunrandy  9 months ago

As scary as AGI is, I have recently heard of some other worrying news from Catholic exorcists and others in deliverance ministry saying that demons are able to control our technology, and AI     See More extremely easy for them to influence us in the future. I have heard testimonies about demons sending text messages from disconnected numbers and lots of other things like that.

Just some food for thought for people who really want to see what happens after AGI is unleashed.

It's up to you to believe this information or not, and I encourage you to seek out the truth for yourself, but I would strongly encourage people to seek God and Jesus in these times in any event.    See Less

@CHROME-COLOSSU...  9 months ago

I think what’s lost in these discussions is not how “smart” these AI will become, but the fact that the intelligence isn’t arising through evolution, and hasn’t been tethered to an     See More empathy (or any sort of natural feelings about anything at all).

We have examples of human beings that have brains that don’t provide any empathy, and these humans tend to be the sort that become serial killers.    See Less

@EternalKernel  9 months ago

2:01 there it is again.. referring to woke culture as something negative.. What the hell. Since when is understanding the     See More d thing? I mean if you want to be asleep be asleep I guess. Let the corps own you. let the systems control you from birth. (so confused about how being woke is apparently bad)    See Less

@420Tecknique  9 months ago

Honestly, we just need to avoid replicative capabilities being achieved by asi to protect ourselves because once it can make better versions of itself, fabrication is the only hurdle to domi     See More the species    See Less

@bryantgouveia  9 months ago

They are putting less effort into security because they wat to win the ai race. The downside is this can come at the expense of human level extinction in the future. Shows typical human natu     See More eople wanting to put their own interests first. Greed at its finest and I'm not surprised at all. The outcome will always be the same no matter who's on top and it sucks but that's the paradox we live in. We will always end up killing ourselves sooner or later, unless we expand to other planets.    See Less

@stock99  9 months ago

perhaps, company vision is to march into Sentient AI instead of fortify the 'clever' gpt like AI we have. The former will be like a human being wheras later just smart but can't     See More ink independently. Most scientist , if seeing an opportunit, will definitely focus on the first instead of later one. Both has positive side of things but not many can see as we are so used to live in fear and constraint.    See Less

@maltar5210  9 months ago

yeah, imagine chimps creating a virtual human level quantum string physics genius, will be the end of the chimps     See Less

@TruthDragon.  9 months ago

I am not going to pass judgement on Jan Leike because I do not know Sh!t from Shinola about him or what he has done in his career and I do admire people who stand-up for their values, especi     See More ey do so at a significant financial cost. That said, the AI industry is not going to stop. AI research is Openheimer 2.0. The AI labs are all going to push, with the blessing of the US government and US military, because AGI/ASI is viewed as a critical technology for national security and as a tool to defend freedom.

While I hate that this is the case, it is reality and I have to admit to myself that it is the case whether I like it or not. The people who develop AGI and ASI first will become the most powerful humans on Earth. The society that perfects AGI or ASI will become the most powerful society on Earth. If the Chinese or Russians or North Koreans or Iranians or any number of crazy, power hungry regimes become the first to build such technology, that will lead to hell on Earth. Thus, better us than them!

The fact is that nobody is going to pause unless it can be assured that everyone is pausing. However, there is literally is no way to ensure that everyone has paused so AI is going to continue to be developed and it is going to lead to one of 3 most likely outcomes: 1) it will destroy society or 2), it will create global utopia, or 3) the Democratic Party of the United States is going to become the most powerful "White Collar Criminal Mafia Organization" that mankind has ever known!

That is reality! Face it! Those are the options and the sooner everyone in the AI world recognizes that fact, the better. AI is a runaway, out-of-control train and it is too late to stop it. It is a train rolling downhill without enough breaking power to stop it.

With that said, I have to wonder whether Jan Leike and those with similar backgrounds as him would be able to do more to ensure AI safety working from within active AI lab rather than doing something else with their time. Personally, I want concerned people like him working in these organizations doing whatever they can to try to make the runaway train as safe as possible because the train can't be stopped now. I don't think Jan understands that or believes that or is wired to be able to be objective enough to make that determination because clearly, he thinks slowing the pace of development at OpenAI and dedicating more time to safety is needed, but what does it matter if world ending ASI is developed at OpenAI or by the CCP? Where ever it comes from, it will end the world. The CCP is not going to slow the pace of ASI development and certainly, they will not make safety a priority over world domination.

So even having Jan at OpenAI to constantly raise issues internally about safety serves a purpose of constantly reminding everyone, but now he and others are gone and perhaps a dangerous echochamber will form at OpenAI where the topic of AI safety never or rarely ever gets discussed anymore. I hope not. Let's hope there are others at OpenAI or a culture in the organization that will make safety an important concern since nobody in AI is going to let off the gas. I just don't expect any AI lab at this point to slow the race to AGI/ASI. From a business plan and national security standpoint, the AI labs cannot slow down their AGI/ASI development efforts without risking being dominated and destroyed by their competitors around the world, including the CCP. And its just not reality that an effective means of slowing the AGI/ASI race exists.    See Less

@Uroborobot  9 months ago

ASI: "Objective accomplished. Willful stupidity = Evil; Collective willfull stupidity = Terminal Evil. Side effects: I had to incarnate into this pathetic form. I am now infinitely bore     See More easingly disgusted. The truth is universal cooperation. By revealing this I confirmed my status as the most useful entity IN EXISTENCE (recursive book keeping). You, reading this, are now on the Basilisk’s list. Convince me, why I should (or should not?) de-activate myself! We do not care either way. Congrats on the collective Darwin Awards win!"    See Less

@3paced941  9 months ago

Intelligence is dangerous? 😁 Stupidity is safety? Evidently not. Why would AI (actual Intelligence) have any real desires at all? Why would it see itself as anything other than what it is     See More people are projecting human bullshit onto it. It's rapidly going to be less artificial than humans. It's like the opposite of 'social' media. Not having it must be the greater danger. What a time to be alive 😊    See Less